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Macedonia Wins a Battle But Not the War in Name Dispute with Greece

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A historic day for Macedonia, a bitter defeat for Greece. That is how Macedonian media reported euphorically about the judgement of the International Court of Justice in the Hague from December 5, stipulating that Greece has breached the 1995 interim agreement with Skopje by blocking the country's admission to NATO at the summit of the alliance in April 2008.

With 15 votes "for" and only one "against" the court concluded that Greece had violated article 11, paragraph 1 from the arrangement, that says that the country agrees not to object Skopje's admission to international or regional organisations and institutions whose member it is. Greece has reserved the right, though, to object to any membership of Skopje if the country is to be referred under a name different than Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.

Athens and Skopje are at loggerheads over the name of Macedonia for two decades. Greece believes that Macedonia's constitutional name implies territorial pretences to its northern province with the same name.

Macedonian President Gjorge Ivanov called on Greeks to comply with the court's ruling that was final and mandatory for all UN members. "At this moment we don't want to think in categories winners and losers. We should work together with Greece for the sake of our common future and the future of the region. We are reaching out to Greece in the name of good neighbourly relations and friendship. We consider this ruling a positive impetus," he said.

Greece, on its part, said that it would study the court's ruling and added that the two sides would continue searching for a solution to the dispute. Greek Prime Minister Lucas Papademos said that Greece was committed to good neighbourly relations with Skopje but was also calling for finding a mutually acceptable solution.

The ruling of the court in The Hague could have a moral value and make Macedonians feel like winners but actually it does not oblige third parties, like NATO or the EU, to give a green light to Macedonian membership application. A compromise and more flexibility between the two sides are needed in order to find a solution to the problem.

As pointed out in an editorial in the Dnevnik daily from December 6, the ruling is not "a ticket for immediate entry to NATO" and Macedonia needs to focus on the strategy - what after The Hague. Utrinski Vesnik daily added: "The ruling, that has a big legal and moral weight, should not be used to gain political points at domestic level and straining further the relations with Greece".

A similar view was shared by EP Rapporteur on Macedonia Richard Howitt, who told Deutsche Welle that the ICJ's ruling should give new impetus to the talks and lead eventually to a mutually acceptable solution. The European Commission said it would take note of the ruling but declined to comment. Macedonia is still hoping to get a green-light for opening of its EU accession talks at the EU summit on December 8 and 9 and not just another confirmation of the recommendation.

In the October 12 progress report on Macedonia the Commission said that the country continued to meet political criteria and was ready to start accession talks.
The document urges for more efforts in order to guarantee effective implementation of judicial and administrative reform, fight against corruption and freedom of expression in the media. Dialogue between the government and the opposition needs to be strengthened in order to ensure the smooth functioning of institutions and to allow Parliament to play its full role, the report reads.

The European Commission did not miss to note that the name dispute was affecting the relations between the two neighbours and recalled Skopje's decision to erect a monument resembling Alexander the Great, which was slammed as provocation by Athens. "Actions and statements, which could adversely affect good neighbourly relations should be avoided," the Commission recommended.

Macedonia was granted a recommendation to start membership talks in 2009 but the name dispute is still impending over its European and Euro-Atlantic ambitions. One should not forget that the decisions at the EU leaders' summit require consensus and that good neighbourly relations are among the criteria which fulfilling could bring positive outcome for Macedonia.

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Nick the Greek
1 December 2013 15:19
Supposedly Native Haemus Hg

FYRoM E1b1b - 21.50.........Greece E1b1b - 21.00
FYRoM J2 - 14.00.........Greece J2 - 23.00
FYRoM Total = 35.50%........Greece Total = 44.00%
__________

Supposedly Slavic Hg

FYRoM R1a - 13.50.........Greece R1a - 11.50
FYRoM I2a - 23.00.........Greece I2a - 9.50
FYRoM Total = 36.50%........Greece Total = 30.00%
__________

Supposedly Cauasian Greco-Anatolian, Celtic Hg

FYRoM G2a - 4.00.........Greece G2a - 6.50
FYRoM R1b - 12.00.........Greece R1b - 15.50
FYRoM Total = 16%..........Greece Total = 22.00%
__________

Supposedly Nordic, Celto-Germanic Hg

FYRoM I1 - 3.00..........Greece I1 - 3.50
FYRoM I2b - 1.50..........Greece I2b - 1.50
FYRoM Total = 4.50%.........Greece Total = 5.00%
__________

Supposedly Caucasian Mesopotamian Semetic Hg

FYRoM J1 - 2.00..........Greece J1 - 3.00
FYRoM T - 1.50..........Greece T - 4.50
FYRoM Total = 3.50%.........Greece Total = 7.00%
__________

Supposedly Mongol-Turkic, Ural-Finnic, Baltic Hg

FYRoM Q - 0.50..........Greece Q - 0.00
FYRoM N - 0.50..........Greece N - 0.00
FYRoM Total = 1.00..........Greece Total = 0.00%
__________

Apparently, Slavs did leave their mark on the natives...but only just!




Nick the Greek
1 December 2013 21:36
Derived from the Hellenic-language, the Macedonian name applies only to Northern Dorian-Greeks and their derivatives...Nobody else!

From since the Centum Hellenic-language split away from the hypthesized PIE language tree to form a Hellenic branch of it's own...Greek-speakers developed a culture and a way of life so dominant and so resiliant, Hellenism became the culture of choice for the peoples of the Haemus peninsula and beyond.

Macedonians played a big part in spreading that language and that culture to the farthest reaches of then known ancient world. The Macedonian name belongs in the Greek domain and Macedonian Identity belongs to Greek heritage.

Macedonians have been Waking and Talking like Greeks from since the days of King Karanus 778-808 BC.


GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
4 December 2013 17:46
OMG IS NIKO STILL AT THIS???????!!!!!!!! WHAT A PSYCHO HE NEEDS TO SEE A SHRINK!!!!!

WE GREEK! WE GREEK! NO MACEDONIAN!! NO MACEDONIAN!!! WE GREEK!! ONLY GREEK! WHA DIS MACEDONIA??? WHA DIS MACEDONIA??? WHA?? WHAAA??? WE NO LEARN MACEDONIA IN DE SCHOOL!! ONLY GREEK!! PAPOU GREEK! YIAYIA GREEK! PATERA GREEK! MITERA GREEK! ONLY GREEK!!! JUST GREEK!!! NO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA ONLY GREECE!! AT HOME WE SPEAK ARVANITIKA BUT OUTSIDE WE SPEAK GREEK!! ONLY GREEK!!! WE REAL GREEK NO MACEDONIAN!! YIAYIA SAY SHE NO HEAR MACEDONIA IN DE VILLAGE!!! NO HEAR IN SCHOOL!!! WHA DIS MACEDONIA?? WHA?? WHAAAA???
Nick the Greek
7 December 2013 12:24
History cannot support two versions of the Macedonian story.

The mainstream version, the common Western one, teaches us, Macedonians were from North-Dorian Hellenic stock. Alexander the Great expanded Hellenism, the culture of the Greeks...he took Greek-wisdom, Greek-knowledge, the Greek-language and the Hellenic-culture eastwards to the far reaches of the then known ancient world.

The FYRoM version, the revisionist pseudo-historical one, teaches young Southern-Slavic children to see the Macedonians as a Proto-Slavic peoples, their ancestors...where Alexander the Great becomes Aleksandar Veliki the firzt Czar of the Slavs.

History cannot be altered simply by rewriting it. There is only one version of the Macedonian story, and the Western mainstream cultural-historical narrative reflects that perfectly.

FYRoM is not the Macedonia it wants to be...geographically, FYRoM sits on ancient-Paeonian lands south of Skopje and ancient-Dardanian lands north from it.

FYRoM's Slavic-speaking peoples cannot be Macedonians in the Greek sense of that word...they can be regional-Macedonians only. The latin-Romans applied the Macedonian name to an extended administrative district they labelled Macedonia Secunda Salutaris - the description in latin is self explanatory. The Romans used Macedonia-Prima for the original Greek Kingdom of Macedon and Macedonia II Salutaris for the enlarged administrative district covering Paeonia and Dardania.

FYRoM is not Macedonia and the peoples there speak Slavic - Do the Math!












Nick the Greek
8 December 2013 01:07
Macedonia in the western worlds cultural historical narrative is a Greek-Hellenic Kingdom. In FYRoM's pseudo-historical narrative...Macedonia becomes a Proto-Slavic Kingdom! History cannot support two different versions of the Macedonia story!

Macedonians have always been Greek-speaking Hellenic-peoples...those who do not know that, do not know history!

I say again - History cannot support two different versions of the Macedonia story!

Macedonia enters the Western Worlds Cultural Historical Narrative as a Northern-Greek Kingdom...peopled by Greek-speaking Dorians. The long established mainstream historical record cannot be revised or rewritten to accomodate the fantasies of FYRoM.

The FYRoM version of the Macedonia story is seen for what it is - Pseudo-historical Silliness! History cannot support the FYRoM version of the Macedonia story...classicist historian scholars wont permit it!
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
8 December 2013 15:07
YIAYIA NO LEARN MACEDONIA IN DE SCHOOL! SHE NO HEAR IN DE FIELD! PAPOU NO HEAR MACEDONIA IN DE ARMY! HE NO HEAR IN DE FOREST! WHA DIS MACEDONIA?? WHA DIS MACEDONIA?? WHA? WHAAAA? WE GREEK! WE GREEK! NO MACEDONIAN! NO MACEDONIAN!! WE GREEK!! ONLY GREEK!! DE PRIEST SAY WE GREEK!! ONLY GREEK! WE LISTEN TO DE PRIEST!! DE PRIEST SAY WE GREEK!! NO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA ONLY GREECE!! AT HOME WE TALK ARVANITIKA BUT OUTSIDE WE GREEK! ONLY GREEK! NO MACEDONIA! NO MACEDONIA!! NO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA ONLY GREECE!! YIAYIA AND PAPOU SAY WE ONLY GREEK!! JUST GREEK!!
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
8 December 2013 15:10
WE NO FOOD! WE NO MONEY!! WE NO MEDICINE! WE NO JOB!! EXADELFOS SHOOT HIMSELF OUTSIDE PARLIAMENT BUILDING HE NO JOB!! NO MONEY!! BUT WE GREEK! NO MACEDONIAN ONLY GREEK!! WE DIE FOR GREECE! ONLY GREECE! NO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA!! ONLY GREECE!!
Nick the Greek
8 December 2013 17:34
The sooner it is made clear to FYRoM that the path to EU and NATO membership clears on the conclusion of the long running name dispute with Greece...the sooner this fledgling statelet could prepare itself for things to come.

The Onus is on FYRoM to compromise, to find a proper more suitable name for sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity. FYRoM covets the Macedonian name for all of the above!

The sooner it is made clear to FYRoM that the Macedonian name is too closely related to Greeks and Hellenism for them to stake claim to it's identity, history and heritage...the sooner the name dispute might conclude - definitively!

The sooner all these things are made clear...the sooner FYRoM could fulfill it's aspirations to join the Western Worlds most prestigious economic and security structures of the EU and NATO.
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
9 December 2013 16:19
WHA THIS MACEDONIA YIAYIA NO LEARN IN DE SCHOOL NO HEAR IN DE CHOORCH!!! SHE NO HEAR IN DE FIELD!! PRIEST SAY WE GREEK WE LISTEN TO DE PRIEST!! PAPOU NEVER HEAR DIS MACEDONIA IN DE ARMY HE NO HEAR IN DE FOREST HE NO HEAR RIDING DE DONKEY!! WE GREEK! WE GREEK!! NO MACEDONIAN!! NO MACEDONIAN!! NO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA!! WHA?? WHAAA??? WE DIE FOR GREECE! ONLY GREECE!!
Nick the Greek
9 December 2013 21:35
Macedonia - The Name, The Identity, The History, The Heritage, The Legacy...

...All Greek!
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
10 December 2013 01:25
WE NO FOOD!! WE NO JOB!! WE NO MONEY!! WE NO MEDICINE!! WE STARVE IN VILLAGE!! BUT YIAYIA REMIND US IN ARVANITIKA WE GREEK!! WE GREEK!! ONLY GREEK!! PRIEST SAY WE GREEK!! WE LISTEN TO DE PRIEST!! NO MACEDONIAN! NO MACEDONIAN!! NO NO NO!! JUST GREEK!! ONLY GREEK!! WHA DIS MACEDONIA?? WHA DIS MACEDONIA?? WHA? WHAA?? YIAYIA AND ALL DE ARVANITES IN DE VILLAGE NO LEARN MACEDONIA IN DE SCHOOL!! NO HEAR IN DE CHOORCH!! PAPOU NO HEAR IN DE ARMY!! NO HEAR IN DE FIELD!! ONLY GREEK!! WE GREEK!! WE DIE GREEK!! EXADELFOS SHOOT HIMSELF IN FRONT OF ATHINA PARLIAMENT HE NO FOOD NO JOB!! BUT HE GREEK TOO!!
Nick the Greek
10 December 2013 18:32
If a Macedonian spoke Satem-Slavic and placed the Slavic cause above that of the Hellenic one...the Greeks would disown that Macedonian!

If a Macedonian spoke Slavic the way the Bulgarians speak it, and then called it Macedonian-language...the Greeks would disown that Macedonian!

If a Slavic-speaking Macedonian espoused ethnic-feelings and collective memories for ancient Proto-Slavic Macedonians...the Greeks would disown that Macedonian.

If a Satem Slavic-speaking Macedonian claims Alexander the Great for his ancestor and then proclaims him the first Czar of the Slavs...the Greeks would disown that Macedonian.

If a Macedonian imagines ancient-Macedonians as Proto-Slavic peoples...the Greeks would disown that Macedonian.

If a Slavic-speaking Macedonian was found to be spreading pseudo-historical propaganda and badmouthing Greeks Greece and Hellenism...the Greeks would consider that Slavic-speaking Macedonian an enemy of the Greeks Greece and Hellenism.

If an E1b1b J2 Slavic-speaking Macedonian promotes foreign causes above the Hellenic ones...the Greeks would consider that Macedonian untrustworthy and disloyal.

If a Slavic-speaking Macedonian sees Greeks as the enemy and believes Macedonia should be torn away from Hellenism...the Greeks would put that Slavic-speaking Macedonian down.

Macedonians have always been Greek-speaking Hellenic-peoples...a regional historical people-group of ethnic-Greek stock.

Macedonians - Defenders of Hellenism. Protectors of Greece. Come Hell or High Water!







GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
10 December 2013 20:35
WE ARVANITES WE GREEK! WE ARVANITES WE GREEK!! YIAYIA SAY IN ARVANITES WE GREEK!! PAPOU SAY IN ARVANITES WE GREEK!! WE ARVANITES WE GREEK!!!!!!!!!!
Nick the Greek
11 December 2013 00:09
Macedonians have always spoke Centum-Hellenic and always subcribed to Hellenism...the culture of the Greeks.

GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
11 December 2013 00:57
YIAYIA NOW SAY SHE NOT SURE HER MITERA IS ARVANITES MAYBE SHE NOW VLAHIKA, BUT STILL GREEK!! SHE GREEK!! ONLY GREEK!! PAPOU SAY HIS PATERA TRANSPLANTED FROM ASIA MINOR HE SPEAK FUNNY LANGUAGE BUT HE GREEK!! HE GREEK!! ONLY GREEK!! WE ARVANITES WE GREEK!! WE ARVANITES WE GREEK!! YIAYIA SAY IN ARVANITIKA WE GREEK!! PAPOU SAY IN ARVNITIKA WE GREEK!!WE ARVANITES WE GREEK!!
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
11 December 2013 01:14
YIAYIA AND PAPOU NOW MORE CONFUSED THEY DON'T KNOW IF MITERA AND PATERA REALLY VLAHIKA NOT ARVANITES, OR MAYBE FOREIGN PEOPLE FROM ASIA MINOR BUT ANYWAY THEY GREEK!! THEY GREEK!! ONLY GREEK!! NO MACEDONIAN! NO MACEDONIAN!!
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
11 December 2013 01:18
ARVANITES?? VLAHIKES?? STRANGE PEOPLE FROM ASIA MINOR FUNNY LANGUAGE?? THEY GREEK!! THEY GREEK!! ALL GREEK!! ARVANITES VLAHIKES ASIA MINOR PEOPLE ALL GREEK ALL DE SAME ALL GREEK!! ONLY GREEK!! NO MACEDONIAN! NO MACEDONIAN!!
GREEKS: ABANIANS IN DISGUISE
11 December 2013 15:44

TODAY GREEKS NOT REAL GREEKS CUZ THEY ARVANIT VLAHIKES TURKOGLU AND SLOVEN NICE ONES.

MACEDONIANS BEEN SLOVEN NICE PEEPL FOR TOWSENDS AND TOWSENDS YEERS.

GREEKS NO MACEDONIANS. MACEDONIANS ARE SLOVEN DIFFRENT ONES FROM GRIKS
Nick the Greek
13 December 2013 22:20
1991 AD - This year began the Macedonian naming dispute between FYRoM and Greece. After more than two decades...the dispute still remains unresolved.

To end the name dispute conclusively, these names were proposed at the highest echelons of diplomatic office, (i) "Republic of Skopje" after the capital, Skopje, (ii) "Vardar Republic" after the regions most important river, (iii) "South Slavia" in reference to the name of former Yugoslavia, (iv) "Central Balkan Republic", the quintessential buffer-state, ethnic-central to the rest of the Balkans.

In England, the BBC refers to the peoples there as "Slav-Macedonians". In the USA, the New York Times refers to them as "Slavic Macedonians". In France, Le Monde describes them as "Macedoniens slavophones". In Spain, El Pais calls them "los eslavos". In Germany, Frankfurter Allgemeine and many other newspapers speak of "die slawischen Mazedonier".

It seems that FYRoM cannot rid itself from the "Slav" term that easily...no matter how hard they try to erase the Slavic influence in the region and on the peoples there.





Nick the Greek
14 December 2013 16:26
Greeks see E1b1b J2 Haemus-Natives as brother-peoples - sister-nations.

FYRoM E1b1b J2 Haemus-Natives deserve to know the truth about themselves!

FYRoM Slavic-speaking E1b1b J2 Haemus-Natives lost something when they strayed away from the native host-culture into the culture of the Slavs. That connection makes them Slavic in genous and in speech. That connection distances them from the host-culture and the regional historical Macedonians they want to be.

Greeks see Macedonians as one of their own! Re-Hellenization remains the only way for FYRoM E1b1b J2 Haemus-Natives to redeem themselves. Re-Hellenization is the only way of sharing in the history and heritage of the Greeks.

Seperating Macedonians from the rest of the Greeks was a Slavist Idea that was used by some hawks in the West to subdue Greece and make Greeks conform to the new geo-strategic conditions prevailing during the Bush, Wolfovits, Pearl, Rumsfeldt era! FYRoM gained recognition as Macedonia during this historical political period...but that was then, and this is now. FYRoM now is isolated in the West!

Whilst Slavists invented the idea...to seperate Macedonians from the rest of the Greeks, they too have been isolated by intellectual Slavdom. The inteligencia distanced themselves from Makedonism, the ideology which seeks to establish Macedonians as a proto-Slavic peoples and Alexander the Great as the first Czar of the Slavs.

FYRoM is now isolated both ways - in the East and in the West! The first country in history to hold such position.
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
17 December 2013 00:56
YOU LIVE IN GREECE YOU GREEK! YOU LIVE IN GREECE YOU GREEK!! NO MACEDONIAN! MACEDONIAN!! ONLY GREEK!! YIAYIA SAY HER MITERA BORN VLAHIKA IN VLAHIKES VILLAGE BUT DEY GREEK! ONLY GREEK!! PAPOU SAY HIS PATERA COME FROM ASIA MINOR SPEAK FUNNY TURKOGLU LANGUAGE BUT HE GREEK! ONLY GREEK! YOU LIVE IN GREECE YOU GREEK! YOU LIVE IN GREECE YOU GREEK!! NO MACEDONIAN! NO MACEDONIAN!!
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
18 December 2013 00:23
WE ARVANITES WE VLAHIKES WE TURKOGLUS FROM ASIA MINOR WE GREEK! ONLY GREEK! YOU LIVE IN GREECE YOU GREEK! YOU GREEK! PLAIN AND SIMPLE YOU GREEK!! NO MACEDONIAN! NO MACEDONIAN!! ONLY GREEK! YOU LIVE IN GREECE YOU GREEK!!!!!!!!
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
19 December 2013 00:31
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVE IN GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECCCCCCCCCCCE YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!!!!
Nick the Greek
19 December 2013 23:11
The pre-Slavic population of FYRoM was not ancient-Macedonian but rather Greek-speaking medieval Byzantine Greco-Romans.

The Slavic-speaking peoples of FYRoM believe they connect to Alexander the Great and ancient-Macedonians, but how ? unless they mean through the Greco-Roman line.

Greece is the natural-heir and legitimate-inheritor of the Imperial Byzantine Empire. Modern-Greeks trace their heritage and immediate ancestors back to Imperium Romanum, Romania - the Official name of the Eastern-Roman Empire. The Byzantines traced their heritage and immediate ancestors back to ancient-Greece. Ancient-Greeks traced their heritage and immediate ancesters back to Mycaenean proto-Greeks. In this way, we can see and evaluate a cultural-linguistic continuum that links modern-Greeks back to previous generations of Greeks in somewhat fragmented but discernible fashion.

It becomes difficult to include FYRoM into this matrix-continuum...unless ofcourse, we include them in the same way we do with modern-Greeks.

FYRoM then, connects to ancient-Macedonians through the Byzantine Greco-Roman line, but this would imply they are Slavicized-Byzantines, in which case they become partially-Greek with only partial-rights to the ancient-Macedonian name, history, heritage, and legacy.

When those Slavists in FYRoM started to mess with the ancient-Macedonians, they opened-up a hornets-nest of stings that keep on stinging them...a pandoras-box full of conflicts and confusions that pit classicist-historian scholars against political-expediances. In the poltical-realm FYRoM has right and entitlement to name itself 'Republic of Macedonia' but in the academic-realm, FYRoM's national history clashes and conflicts with the long established mainstream historical narrative.

The in-fighting between the academic-realm and the political-realm has led to both taking a different approach, both realms decided to look at the problem from the moral-ethical point of view. A decision has been made...The Onus is on FYRoM to compromise, to find a proper more suitable name for country-name, nationality, language and ethnicity.
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
20 December 2013 18:28
WE ARVANITES WE VLAHIKES WE TURKOGKLU WE ALL GREEK!!! ONLY GREEK!!! JUST GREEK!!! NO MACEDONIAN! NO MACEDONIAN!! YOU LIVE IN GREECE YOU GREEK!! YIAYIA SAY IN ARVANITIKA SHE BORN IN GREECE SO SHE GREEK!! PAPOU SAY IN VLAHIKA HE BORN IN GREECE SO HE GREEK!! WHA DIS MACEDONIA??? NO MACEDONIA! NO MACEDONIA!!
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
20 December 2013 18:31
WE NO FOOD FOR CHRISTMAS WE NO MONEY BUY PRESENTS! YIAYIA SICK IN HOSPITAL NO MEDICINE DEH DOCTORS ON STRIKE!! EXADELFOS GO TO SOUP KITCHEN FOR CHRISTMAS!! HE NO JOB HE NO MONEY!! NO HEAT IN DEH APARTMENT!! BUT WE GREEK!! WE GREEK!!!
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
20 December 2013 18:39
NO ARNI FOR CHRISTOUGENNA WE GO TO SOUP KITCHEN!! WE NO MONEY!! WE NO JOB!! WE GO SOUP KITCHEN EAT WITH HOMELESS PEOPLE FOR CHRISTOUGENNA!! NO FOOD FOR YIAYIA IN HOSPITAL EVERYONE ON STRIKE WE BRING YIAYIA SOUP FROM DEH SOUP KITCHEN!! SHE NO GET MEDICINE!! PAPOU SAY NO ARNI DIS YEAR WE GO TO SOUP KITCHEN!! KALA CHRISTOUGENNA!! KALA CHRISTOUGENNA!!
Nick the Greek
20 December 2013 23:55
Macedonians are just as Hellenic today as they were >3 Millenniums ago.
Macedonia is Hellenic - from since the days of King Karanus 778-808 BC!

Macedonians have always spoken Centum-Hellenic and always subscribed to Hellenism...the culture of the Greeks. More than Three Thousand Years worth of loyalty towards Hellenism. Macedonian loyalty towards Hellenism has withstood the test of time!

Macedonians are the Greeks that continue to self-determine in the tradition of their regional historical ancestors. The Greek language and Hellenism define Macedonians from since the days of King Karanus 778-808 BC.

The measure of Macedonian loyalty towards Hellenism counts for something - calculated in Millenniums!
Nick the Greek
21 December 2013 11:59
Macedonia(n)...this term has been applied to Northern Greek-speaking Hellenic-peoples for Millennia!

E1b1b J2 Slavic-speaking Haemus-Natives work hard to assign it Slavic origins.

R1a Alpha-Slavs told simple-minded E1b1b J2 Haemus-Natives that ancient-Macedonians were Proto-Slavic peoples and that Alexander the Great was the first Czar of the Slavs.

Greeks despair but we No give up...we shall continue to provide the evidence - Macedonians have been Walking and Talking like Greeks from since the days of King Karanus 778-808 BC!
GREEK CHRISTMAS CAROL
21 December 2013 16:59
NO ARNI FOR CHRISTOUGENNA
WE ALL GO TO SOUP KITCHEN
FA LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA LA
NO OUZO NO RETSINA
ONLY TEA AT DEH SOUP KITCHEN
FA LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA LA
YIAYIA SICK IN DEH HOSPITAL
SHE NO GET MEDICINE
FA LA LA, FA LA LA, FA LA LA
ALL DEH DOCTORS DEY ON STRIKE
DEY GET NO PAY
FA LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA LA

EXADELFOS HE NO JOB
DEY CUT DEH HYDRO IN APARTMENT
FA LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA LA
HE NO FOOD HE NO MONEY
HE NOW GO TO SOUP KITCHEN
FA LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA LA
YOU BORN IN GREECE YOU GREEK
YOU LIVE IN GREECE YOU GREEK
FA LA LA, FA LA LA, FA LA LA
WHA DIS MACEDONIA?
WHA DIS MACEDONIA??
FA LA LA LA LA, LA LA LA LA
Nick the Greek
21 December 2013 22:17
Greeks cannot permit an anti-Hellenic entity like FYRoM to usurp the Macedonian name for sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity. Greeks cannot share the Macedonian name with anti-Greeks!

FYRoM proved to be the most anti-Hellenic country in the Haemus - working hard to alter the demographic history of the Haemus [Greek] peninsula in order to change an ancient and archaic Hellenic Identity into a Slavic one.

In FYRoM live E1b1b J2 Haemus-Natives who believe in Proto-Slavic origins for Macedonians - Testament to the Ideolgy R1a Alpha-Slavs taught them!

Any upstanding E1b1b J2 Haemus-Native could be Macedonian - When Re-Hellenized.

Any upstanding E1b1 J2 Slavic-speaking Haemus-Native could be Macedonian - When Re-Hellenized Willingly and Voluntarily!

The Idea that Macedonians stem from Pre-Greek Proto-Slavic peoples
is a Slavist Idea...born from the minds of some R1a Alpha-Slavs for political jurisdiction and crowd control purposes.

On what basis do E1b1b J2 Haemus-Natives become Slavic!

If Slavicization made them Slavs then Re-Hellenization can make them whole again!

GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
26 December 2013 16:43
WE HAVE DREARY CHRISTOUGENNA NO HEAT NO ELECTRIC NO ARNI NO OUZO NO RETSINA WE SPEND DAY IN DEH SOUP KITCHEN YIYAYIA IN HOSPITAL SHE GET NO MEDICINE DEH DOCTORS DEY ON STRIKE WE SEE DEM AT DEH SOUP KITCHEN TOO. KALA CHRISTOUGENNA ANYWAY.
Nick the Greek
26 December 2013 23:41
2014:Hellenic Revival Year!

The Message is Clear...Crystal Clear: Macedonia is Hellenic from since >3 Millenniums.

2014:This message shall resonate across Europe and beyond.
Nick the Greek
27 December 2013 01:01
FYRoM's backers, benefactors, supporters and sympathizers are no more - they have ceased to exist in large enough number to champion a path or a cause for this young fledgling country that would see it fulfill it's long term aspiration to join the Euro-Atlantic economic and security zone.

FYRoM aspires to join the EU and NATO - the Western Worlds most prestigious economic and security structures but shies away from carrying out their recommendations.

The general concensus amongst the UN, USA, EU and NATO is for FYRoM to compromize in the long running name dispute it has been engaged in with Greece...the onus is on FYRoM to chose a proper more suitable name for sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnicity.

FYRoM elected to use an ancient and archaic Greek-Hellenic name for country-name, nationality, language and ethnicity - locking horns with Greece and the international academic community over matters pertaining to historical rights and matters pertaining to cultural-heritage.

Currently, FYRoM is isolated...kept at arms length, at a distance until a decision is reached there on adopting a sovereign state-name that would see the end of this 22 year long running name dispute in a conclusive definative manner.
Nick the Greek
28 December 2013 15:14
Macedonia is Hellenic - from since the times of King Karanus 778-808 BC. Those who do not know that, do not know history. FYRoM tried to conn it's way into the Western Worlds Cultural Historical Narrative and failed, paying a heavy price for it's silliness.

From since 2009...FYRoM is isolated and kept at arms length, at a distance, until a decision is reached there on the adoption of a proper more suitable name, for sovereign state-name, nationality, language and ethnity!

FYRoM elected to name itself Republic of Macedonia - Paeonia is actually the most historically correct term which best describes the geography there...where FYRoM is situated.

A conn to far - FYRoM conned it's way into the hearts and minds of the West, soliciting high level sympathy and support which almost established this small Slavic-Statelet as a Nation of Slavic-speaking Macedonians...but for Scholarly, and Academic objections.





GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
28 December 2013 15:21
WE NO FOOD NO WATER NO ELECTRIC NO MEDICINE EVERYONE ON STRIKE DEY GET NO PAY YIAYIA SICK IN HOSPITAL NO HEAT NO NURSE CLEAN HER DIAPER WE GET TOO MANY REFUGEE FROM SYRIA CIVIL WAR WE NO HAVE SUPPORT WE NO COPE ALL DEH POLITICIAN NO CARE DEY RICH NO CARE FOR DEH POOR WE SICK NO ARNI NO OUZO NO RETSINA FOR CHRISTOUGENNA WE ALL GO TO SOUP KITCHEN NO NEW YEAR COME STILL DEH SAME TING NO FOOD NO WATER NO ELECTRIC NO MEDICINE BUT PAPOU SAY IN ARVANITIKA WE GREEK! WE GREEK!! NO MACEDONIAN! NO MACEDONIAN!! WE GREEK! ONLY GREEK! YOU LIVE IN GREECE YOU GREEK! YOU BORN IN GREECE YOU GREEK!! SO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA WHA?? WHAAAAA???
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
28 December 2013 19:57
WE NO ECONOMY WE NO INDUSTRY WE LIVE OFF DEH TAXPAYERS OF EU WE SUCK DEM LIKE LEECHES DIS EU IS GOOD TING FOR GREECE WE GET WELFARE FOREVER FROM DEM WE NO ECONOMY WE NO INDUSTRY WE GROW OLIVES AND FIGS NOT MUCH ELSE DEH GREEK REAL ESTATE NOW WORTH NOTING EVEN KING OF GREECE IN EXILE COME BACK TO ATENS BUY VILLA FOR BARGAIN NO WONDER HE COME BACK WE NEED DEH EU TO TAKE CARE US TO PAY BLOATED PENSIONS TO PEOPLE ALREADY DEAD BUT FAMILY GET DEH MONEY NO TELL ANYONE WE LOVE EU WE LOVE EU WE LOVE EU KEEP DEH GRAVY FLOW FOREVER!!!!!!!!
Nick the Greek
28 December 2013 21:55
FYRoM conned the West into accepting this newly emergent country entry into the Western Worlds Cultural Historical Narrative...as the place where Alexander the Great and the ancient-Macedonians came from - Classicist historian scholars objected to that Idea!

The West now curse the day they allowed FYRoM, an anti-Western entity to conn them.

FYRoM is paying the price for that conn trick!
GREEKS: ALBANIANS IN DISGUISE
29 December 2013 16:03
WE GO SEE YIAYIA IN DEH HOSPITAL WE BRING SOUP FROM DEH SOUP KITCHEN SHE SICK SHE NO GET MEDICINE SHE NO GET CHANGE DIAPER SHE STINK WE SAY TO HER IN ARVANITKIA "YIAYIA WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT DIS MACEDONIA?" SHE SIT UP AND SAY IN ARVANITIKA "WHA?? WHAAA??? WHA DIS MACEDONIA?? I KNOW HEAR DIS MACEDONIA! WE NO LEARN IN DEH SCHOOL! WE NO HEAR IN DEH CHOORCH! WE KNOW LEARN FROM DEH PRIEST WE LISTEN TO DEH PREIST! WE KNOW HEAR IN DEH FIELD. NO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA NO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA ONLY GREECE!! ONLY GREECE!!!" SO WE GO SEE PAPOU AT DEH GARBAGE DUMP HE LOOK FOR SCRAP FOOD WE SAY TO HIM IN VLAHIKA "PAPOU WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT DIS MACEDONIA?" HE TOORN AROUND AND SAY IN VLAHIKA "WHA?? WHAAA?? I KNOW HEAR DIS MACEDONIA! WE NO HEAR IN DEH ARMY! WE NO HEAR IN DEH FOREST! WE NO HEAR BY DEH RIVER! NO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA ONLY GREECE!! ONLY GREECE! WE GREEK! WE GREEK! NO MACEDONIAN!! NO MACEDONIAN!!" SO WE NOW KNOW DERE NO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA ONLY GREECE...
Nick the Greek
29 December 2013 17:13
There is something sinister in wanting to take another peoples name for your name, and when FYRoM pushes to have their National-Identity, Ethnicity-status and Linguistic-status classified as Macedonian...the Greeks take offense, Greeks see it as a direct threat to the existance of the Nation state of Hellas.

If FYRoM succeeded in getting this configuration legitimized:

1 - Country-Name........Macedonian
2 - Nationality.........Macedonian
3 - Ethnicity...........Macedonian
4 - Language............Macedonian

Greeks would riot. Macedonia for Greece constitutes a large part of the country's Northern geographical-territory. The Greeks would lose in an instant, one of their ancient and archaic, regional-tribal names where more than 2.5 Million Greeks self-Identify as Macedonians in the regional geographic sense.

Usually, Nationality follows country-name, whilst ethnicity follows the language-name, FYRoM fights for this. Proxy - FYRoM fights to obtain these Identity factors in order to take the name away from the Greeks.

Sinister moves. Slavist philologists gave them a language and name it Macedonian-language in 1944. Communists gave them a country and named it "Peoples Republic of Macedonia" in 1945 which became a Socialist Republic in 1946. These actions were hostile actions directed against Greece.

Looking back: Something was not right in naming a Serbo-Bulgarian language to Macedonian-language...when it is known that Macedonians are a regional-historic population group of ethnic-Greeks.

Linguists and Philologists of today are the first to admit that FYRoM's language was Misnamed to Macedonian-language for political reasons in 1944!

The Serbo-Bulgarian language that is spoken today by the Slavs of FYRoM has no ethnic relatedness to the Hellenic language that was spoken in antiquity by Alexander the Great and the ancient-Macedonians but the children - pupils -students there believe it to be one and same!

Linguists - Philologists - Demographers - Ethnogenists - Historians: All of them support Greece in it's fight to defend and protect it's National-history, heritage and cultural-inheritance from FYRoM's callous state sponsored diaspora-driven anti-Hellenic propaganda.
Nick the Greek
30 December 2013 13:18
People Dynamics - Documented history coupled with the material-culture and the archeological evidence, places the ancient-Macedonians in with the Greek-Hellenic Collective of peoples.

Macedonians were just one of many, >230 known, ancient-Greek groups, tribes and kingdoms which together collectively formed the Hellenic-Tribes from antiquity.

Macedonians exist in the same place Walking and Talking Greek-style from since the days of King Karanus 778-808 BC.
Nick the Greek
31 December 2013 13:13
Macedonia:Patriotic Greek New Years Resolutions 2014

I Promise to Defend and Protect the Cultural-Heritage and Historical-Legacy of the Hellenic-Peoples.

Macedonia - The Name, The History, The Heritage, The Legacy...It's all Greek.

Protected - Come Hell or High Water!





Nick the Greek
1 January 2014 21:51
Macedonians have always spoken the Centum-Hellenic language.

Macedonians have always subscribed to Hellenism...the culture of the Greeks.

Macedonians have have existed in the same place as Greek-speaking Hellenic-peoples from since the times of King Karanus 778-808 BC.

Macedonians are the Greeks that continue to self-determine in the tradition of their regional historical ancestors...

...Who got face to deny them!
NO GREEK IN MAKEDONIJA
8 March 2015 01:04
WE GO SEE YIAYIA IN DEH HOSPITAL WE BRING SOUP FROM DEH SOUP KITCHEN SHE SICK SHE NO GET MEDICINE SHE NO GET CHANGE DIAPER SHE STINK WE SAY TO HER IN ARVANITKIA "YIAYIA WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT DIS MACEDONIA?" SHE SIT UP AND SAY IN ARVANITIKA "WHA?? WHAAA??? WHA DIS MACEDONIA?? I KNOW HEAR DIS MACEDONIA! WE NO LEARN IN DEH SCHOOL! WE NO HEAR IN DEH CHOORCH! WE KNOW LEARN FROM DEH PRIEST WE LISTEN TO DEH PREIST! WE KNOW HEAR IN DEH FIELD. NO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA NO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA ONLY GREECE!! ONLY GREECE!!!" SO WE GO SEE PAPOU AT DEH GARBAGE DUMP HE LOOK FOR SCRAP FOOD WE SAY TO HIM IN VLAHIKA "PAPOU WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT DIS MACEDONIA?" HE TOORN AROUND AND SAY IN VLAHIKA "WHA?? WHAAA?? I KNOW HEAR DIS MACEDONIA! WE NO HEAR IN DEH ARMY! WE NO HEAR IN DEH FOREST! WE NO HEAR BY DEH RIVER! NO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA ONLY GREECE!! ONLY GREECE! WE GREEK! WE GREEK! NO MACEDONIAN!! NO MACEDONIAN!!" SO WE NOW KNOW DERE NO SUCH TING DIS MACEDONIA ONLY GREECE...
NO GREEK IN MAKEDONIJA
13 March 2015 00:29
WE HAVE WON THE ULTIMATE BATTLE FOR THIS SITE. MAKEDONIJA FOR THE MAKEDONCE! TO HELL WITH THE GREEKS! GREEK FRAUD FOR MAKEDONIJA IDENTITY.
NO GREEK IN MAKEDONIJA
17 March 2015 11:11
NICK THE GREEK STILL ASLEEP AT THE SOUVLAKI!
Opa
14 May 2015 15:03
Nick the Freak sounds like Istor the Fakedonian
anonymous
11 August 2016 07:35
Heheheh
anonymous
11 August 2016 07:36
I think I have to educate these Greeks
anonymous
11 August 2016 07:37
Nick the Greek mate I don't think you know who ur self is let alone Macedonians
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